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Newspaper article cautions?

From: (Doublesaj@aol.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 11:20:11 UTC-05:00
We have just been contacted by our local newspaper to do an article about
letterboxing. The reporter is bringing a photographer and everything. Since we
live in a University town, we want to be very cautious about information we give
out not wanting ours or anyone else's boxes trashed on a Friday night frolic.

Any suggestions what NOT to say?

~~Doublesaj & Old Blue~~
P27 F 142 X50 V14 A18 HH 5


Letterboxers take nothing and leave nothing
but good impressions. Sir B


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Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: gwendontoo (foxsecurity@earthlink.net) | Date: 2004-02-10 17:00:28 UTC
My opinion of newspaper articles on letterboxing has changed since
Gwen and I started letterboxing. At first when there was only 14
letterboxes in Ca. we pushed for an article in one of our
neighborhood newspapers. It was written and the article generated
another article being written in an Orange Co. newspaper. With an
influx of new letterboxers that come into our sport/hobby from just
reading about it, many letterboxes tend to suffer from over exposure
and non descrete finders. I believe the best way folks join our hobby
is by word of mouth as the hobby is more completely explained. I
don't want this to sound too elitest but I believe that recruiting
members via newspaper articles is not warranted unless it would be in
an area that is barren of letterboxes. That being said, since an
article seems to be around the corner, try to stress the descetion,
stealth and secrecy required by new finders. My Too Cents.
Don


Re: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: (mjpepe1@comcast.net) | Date: 2004-02-10 17:35:26 UTC
I, too, was approached this past summer for a television interview by a local commentator who wanted to do a feature on letterboxing - follow me around with a camera while Sue and I hit the trails. My first opinion was that it might be good for this pastime - you know, promote it, more people - more boxes, etc.

I was wise enough [surprising! I know] to ask the question of this talk list. The overwelming answer came back to leave things as they are. No publicity - keep this pastime as word-of-mouth, much the same way Sue & I were first introduced to letterboxing.

The one response I remember was from Butterfly. Her only response to me via email was "Shhhhhhh!" I think that sums it up in my opinion.

Have fun and just get out there & box!!! [with not too much publicity!!!]



Mark Pepe

http://pepeanddavidow.blogspot.com/

Re: [LbNA] Newspaper article cautions?

From: (HANNAHKAT@aol.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 12:43:17 UTC-05:00
When CSCM and I were featured in an article, we agreed before the interview that we would stress the "leave no trace" and the "discretion" ethics ad nauseum. We also stressed the family-friendly nature the hobby.

Having dealt many times with reporters in my professional work, I knew that they would only take the big picture and leave out the details, so we made a big deal of the 'details' we thought were important. Reporters will write whatever they want, so be very clear about what you want mentioned or do not want mentioned and explain why.

We also purposely left out a lot of the details. We didn't talk about ALL the facets of the hobby (virtuals, gatherings, PFX #'s etc). We figured someone who investigated the hobby would find that out.

It really seemed to work for us.

Tread carefully!
-Kim (Rustypuff)



Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: Matt (ratpatrolhq@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 17:51:52 UTC
Make it very clear to the reporter how important secrecy and
discretion are to the hobby when you are explaining it. The advantage
of spreading letterboxing by word of mouth is that you can show
exactly how the game is played, while newspaper articles are really
second-hand information and maybe not quite correct. If your area is
suddenly flooded with newcomers who don't understand how important it
is to be discreet and to re-hide boxes well, some boxes may indeed end
up trashed by vandals.

So I wouldn't worry about what not to say, just stress the importance
of secrecy and explain why you are reluctant to talk to reporters. If
the writer "gets it" he/she will be able to give the article the right
tone.

Matt the Rat

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Doublesaj@a... wrote:
> We have just been contacted by our local newspaper to do an article
about
> letterboxing. The reporter is bringing a photographer and
everything. Since we
> live in a University town, we want to be very cautious about
information we give
> out not wanting ours or anyone else's boxes trashed on a Friday
night frolic.
>
> Any suggestions what NOT to say?
>
> ~~Doublesaj & Old Blue~~
> P27 F 142 X50 V14 A18 HH 5
>
>
> Letterboxers take nothing and leave nothing
> but good impressions. Sir B
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [LbNA] Newspaper article cautions?

From: Lori Doobie (dragonladytcb@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 09:53:21 UTC-08:00
we would not be in this hobby without the "original article". speak from your heart and it will tell you what to say.....
dragonlady tcb

Doublesaj@aol.com wrote:
We have just been contacted by our local newspaper to do an article about
letterboxing. The reporter is bringing a photographer and everything. Since we
live in a University town, we want to be very cautious about information we give
out not wanting ours or anyone else's boxes trashed on a Friday night frolic.

Any suggestions what NOT to say?

~~Doublesaj & Old Blue~~
P27 F 142 X50 V14 A18 HH 5


Letterboxers take nothing and leave nothing
but good impressions. Sir B


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Re: [LbNA] Newspaper article cautions?

From: Kstar (kstar1200@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 18:29:21 UTC

Sad as it may seem, there are people who will be drawn by the mere
mention of the word "secret" and their great need to destroy it.
It's just too enticing to ignore. IMO, keep it simple, bland and
boring. Then only those who are truly of the letterboxing spirit
will be able to see through the fog.

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Lori Doobie
wrote:
> we would not be in this hobby without the "original article".
speak from your heart and it will tell you what to say.....
> dragonlady tcb
>
> Doublesaj@a... wrote:
> We have just been contacted by our local newspaper to do an
article about
> letterboxing. The reporter is bringing a photographer and
everything. Since we
> live in a University town, we want to be very cautious about
information we give
> out not wanting ours or anyone else's boxes trashed on a Friday
night frolic.
>
> Any suggestions what NOT to say?
>
> ~~Doublesaj & Old Blue~~
> P27 F 142 X50 V14 A18 HH 5
>
>
> Letterboxers take nothing and leave nothing
> but good impressions. Sir B
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Newspaper article cautions?

From: Irene Martin (ireneemartin@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 10:34:38 UTC-08:00
We face these same problems in the Caving Community. I am a member of a grotto (caving club) out of Wilmington, De. You always want to recruit new people but you have to be careful that they are responsible, environmentally conscientious individuals. Caves take millions of years to form and one careless "spelunker" can do irreparable damage. Since back surgery ended my caving in 1999 I have been looking for more "above ground" activities, although I still camp with my grotto, and was thrilled to stumble onto letterboxing on one of my hikes. I will be discussing it at my monthly grotto meeting this Thursday as these are the coolest, most environmentally friendly folks I know. Most are avid hikers (you do a lot of hiking looking for cave entrances!) and several are already into geo-caching. Cavers already do something like this called "Cave Stash". The cavers motto "Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints, kill nothing but time." is also very similar to the Letterboxing
motto of "Leave no Trace". This is a tough issue, how to avoid the "knuckleheads". Good luck!

Cave softly!
Hikers & Hounds

HANNAHKAT@aol.com wrote:
When CSCM and I were featured in an article, we agreed before the interview that we would stress the "leave no trace" and the "discretion" ethics ad nauseum. We also stressed the family-friendly nature the hobby.

Having dealt many times with reporters in my professional work, I knew that they would only take the big picture and leave out the details, so we made a big deal of the 'details' we thought were important. Reporters will write whatever they want, so be very clear about what you want mentioned or do not want mentioned and explain why.

We also purposely left out a lot of the details. We didn't talk about ALL the facets of the hobby (virtuals, gatherings, PFX #'s etc). We figured someone who investigated the hobby would find that out.

It really seemed to work for us.

Tread carefully!
-Kim (Rustypuff)




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Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: thedoubtfulguests (thedoubtfulguests@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 18:37:00 UTC
I suggest you reread the Letterboxing.org guidelines and FAQs.

I like to stress that letterboxers avoid placing at fragile sites
like those that are environmentally sensitive or historically
significant.

I am of two minds about the publicity thing. The DC area really got
going after an article in the Weekend section of the Washington
Post. That's a big circulation. It inspired a lot of activity but
not "too much". I agree with the comment that articles are good to
get a low activity area going. Yet I don't believe in teaching it
to large classrooms or scouting groups for fear of vandalism.

I think if you emphasize the art and nature aspects you have already
lost the interest of the potential vandals. Emphasizing the careful
placement away from sensitive areas or large groups of people, and
you avoid the notice of suspiciious authorritys.

Personally it only took seeing the cover of the Weekend section,
with a photo of someone running through the woods with directions in
hand, and the word letterboxing, and I knew this was something Very
interesting. I stole the paper off someone's desk to read it.

Scarab of the Doubtful Guests

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Doublesaj@a... wrote:
> We have just been contacted by our local newspaper to do an
article about
> letterboxing. The reporter is bringing a photographer and
everything. Since we
> live in a University town, we want to be very cautious about
information we give
> out not wanting ours or anyone else's boxes trashed on a Friday
night frolic.
>
> Any suggestions what NOT to say?
>
> ~~Doublesaj & Old Blue~~
> P27 F 142 X50 V14 A18 HH 5
>
>
> Letterboxers take nothing and leave nothing
> but good impressions. Sir B
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: Phyto (phyto_me@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 19:16:50 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Brian, Ryan & Lori"
wrote:
> I gotta agree (reluctantly;) with Mark here. Let folk find out on
> their own. It will give them a greater appreciation for the game.
> There has been enough spoon-feeding already.


Oh thank you for those words Brian. Seems as though those EXACT words
have come out of my mouth much too often since I started this game.

Personally, the less the general public knows, the better. The more we
try and explain, the more it becomes like the phone game and the more
the clues and the boxes and eventually the entire sport becomes
watered down. Yuck! I'm all for secrecy and hoarding of my sacred
boxes and clues.

"Only time will show those that are worthy will know." -phyto


Re: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: (FreeloadingFeret@aol.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 17:00:08 UTC-05:00
In a message dated 2/10/2004 12:05:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
foxsecurity@earthlink.net writes:
don't want this to sound too elitest but I believe that recruiting
members via newspaper articles is not warranted
I was introduced to letterboxing via a newspaper article, otherwise I would
have never known about such an wonderful, exciting hobby that I've enjoyed so
much.

KGP


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Re: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: (R2D2ZDW@aol.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 19:45:11 UTC-05:00
Don`t give too much information to the public, or letterboxing (one day) will
be as common as walking outside.Just my thoughts, and let them figure out
about HH`s, it is fun to figure those things out on your own.


Friend Fish out


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Re: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: dave & diane (vonderinsel@cox.net) | Date: 2004-02-10 22:18:38 UTC-05:00
My husband and I got into Letterboxing after my brother accidently found one of the Trustom Pond (RI) boxes. He came home with the internet address and asked us to look it up for him. The next weekend there was an article in the Providence Journal Bulletin. My brother's comment - Now everyone will be out there boxing. Well, I don't think it made the hobby _that_ popular. :) We haven't been able to get my brother started. There was also a small article in a local Plainfield, CT paper which discussed a box planted near a local library. I, for one, was glad to see stuff about our new hobby in print. But, I also understand the need to be cautious. I, myself, have had bad experiences with what a journalist writes after interviewing me. Too bad it's not one of us writing the copy for the article.
Diane
the von der Insels
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian, Ryan & Lori
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 1:44 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?


I gotta agree (reluctantly;) with Mark here. Let folk find out on
their own. It will give them a greater appreciation for the game.
There has been enough spoon-feeding already. Most of the older
players gravitated to each other because of common interest and
curiosity. Not because they happened upon a "FamilyFun" mag at their
dentist. An appreciation comes from that "Oh, Wow! This is so very
cool!" not from the "Oh, this looks like it might be something
interesting to do with the kids this weekend." type of mind-set. When
you realize just how lucky you have been to discover it at all, you
will come in with greater respect and admiration for those that
created and nurtured the game from the very beginning, appreciating
and respecting them for allowing you to join in something so wondrous
and intriguing. Enjoy the game the way they found it and not feel
they have to change things.

Brian
TeamGreenDragon



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Re: [LbNA] Newspaper article cautions?

From: dave & diane (vonderinsel@cox.net) | Date: 2004-02-10 22:26:46 UTC-05:00
Said in a good Tommy Chong voice: "This is where we plant our stash, man"

Dave
the von der Insels
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To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 11:20 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Newspaper article cautions?


We have just been contacted by our local newspaper to do an article about
letterboxing. The reporter is bringing a photographer and everything. Since we
live in a University town, we want to be very cautious about information we give
out not wanting ours or anyone else's boxes trashed on a Friday night frolic.

Any suggestions what NOT to say?

~~Doublesaj & Old Blue~~
P27 F 142 X50 V14 A18 HH 5


Letterboxers take nothing and leave nothing
but good impressions. Sir B


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Re: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: (Gurudybaker@aol.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 22:40:11 UTC-05:00
I found my first HH when I checked out a letterbox I had already found when I
walked there again. I had heared about HHs from this talk list but never
did really fine one till that day. Many of the people who signed into the letter
box didnot realize that they were to take the HH to a new letterbox site. It
was a great thrill when I found my first HH and my first letterbox.

STAR:W+S=DRR


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Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: Kathryn Litherland (drlith@hotmail.com) | Date: 2004-02-10 22:59:39 UTC-05:00

> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:53:21 -0800 (PST)
> From: Lori Doobie
> Subject: Re: Newspaper article cautions?
>
> we would not be in this hobby without the "original article". speak from
your heart and it will tell you what to say.....
> dragonlady tcb

That's how I feel about it, too (except that it was not the "original
article" but the article in Prevention Magazine). I am absolutely glad that
I live in an area that has had letterboxing exposure through the press,
because there are enough boxes around already to maintain my interest.

La Chola

Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: lakesideyouth (bobbelehr@aol.com) | Date: 2004-02-11 04:14:21 UTC
I'm curious about how most people found out about letterboxing. I
found out about letterboxing from a neighborhood paper and I love
it. I'm in central VA and there wasn't much (less now I think) of a
letterboxing presence when I started over a year ago. If it weren't
for the paper I would not be in this great hobby.
The article I read was informative and interesting enough to grab my
attention, but it did not include an webite address. Anybody who
wanted to find out about it had to find the website themselves, a
step that people who are just interested in causing problems probably
wouldn't bother with.
I don't know how many people started letterboxing becasue of that
article but I don't think the article caused any problems in this
area.



Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@pocketmail.com) | Date: 2004-02-11 06:08:55 UTC
> We have just been contacted by our local newspaper to do an article
> about letterboxing.

Can I have your autograph once you're rich and famous? Well, famous,
at least? =) (Rich is good too, though.)

-- Ryan


Re: [LbNA] Newspaper article cautions?

From: Christopher Martin (cscm@toast.net) | Date: 2004-02-11 15:15:06 UTC
I understand the concerns of many of you about over-publicizing the
hobby, but to those of you who would like there to be no publicity, I
think you're overlooking an important point. That is, that articles
will be written about the hobby whether you want them to or not.
Newspapers and magazines have space to fill. Anything new or
interesting that is perceived as something readers might want to know
about is fair game. Rustypuff and I took this into consideration when
trying to decide whether or not to be interviewed for the Providence
Journal. We decided we'd rather be a source of correct and responsible
information, than to allow a reporter to cobble something together on
his own.

Anyone else who agrees to be interviewed for an article (or TV) should
be ready to take on the same responsibility, not only to expound the
"Leave no trace" philosophy, but to present the hobby in a positive
and unembellished light.

CSCM


Re: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: (Doublesaj@aol.com) | Date: 2004-02-11 12:23:15 UTC-05:00
In a message dated 2/10/2004 10:10:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
RiskyNil@pocketmail.com writes:
Can I have your autograph once you're rich and famous?
Seems fair. . .I have yours!

~~Doublesaj & Old Blue~~
P27 F 142 X50 V14 A18 HH 5


Letterboxers take nothing and leave nothing
but good impressions. Sir B


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Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: trentlaudes (trentlaudes@excite.com) | Date: 2004-02-13 06:25:05 UTC
Hi Doublesaj,
I tend to agree with Don & Gwen (as usual) that newspapers may not be
the best way to spread news about our past-time, but if anyone would
be a great spokesperson about letterboxing it would certainly be you.
I love the serendipitous way I learned about 'boxing--letterboxing
seemed so mysterious and secret--which made me respect it so much,
and want to learn as much as I could about it. That said, I'm sure
that whatever you do with the reporters will be just great.
--Buzzard

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Doublesaj@a... wrote:
> We have just been contacted by our local newspaper to do an article
about
> letterboxing. The reporter is bringing a photographer and
everything. Since we
> live in a University town, we want to be very cautious about
information we give
> out not wanting ours or anyone else's boxes trashed on a Friday
night frolic.
>
> Any suggestions what NOT to say?
>
> ~~Doublesaj & Old Blue~~
> P27 F 142 X50 V14 A18 HH 5
>
>
> Letterboxers take nothing and leave nothing
> but good impressions. Sir B
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: dave & diane (vonderinsel@cox.net) | Date: 2004-02-13 07:25:06 UTC-05:00
I enjoy the way letterboxing is like finding a secret treasure map, or Mr. Phelps getting his orders. The sort of cabalistic secrecy of finding That Which Is Unknown To Common Man is fun. Having said that, I'm also not one to hog all the fun (No offense, Funhog :) !), and the newspaper articles seem to have mostly just identified a fun hobby for folks of like minds to ours (poor guys).

Dave
the von der Insels

----- Original Message -----
From: trentlaudes
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 1:25 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?


Hi Doublesaj,
I tend to agree with Don & Gwen (as usual) that newspapers may not be
the best way to spread news about our past-time, but if anyone would
be a great spokesperson about letterboxing it would certainly be you.
I love the serendipitous way I learned about 'boxing--letterboxing
seemed so mysterious and secret--which made me respect it so much,
and want to learn as much as I could about it. That said, I'm sure
that whatever you do with the reporters will be just great.
--Buzzard

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Doublesaj@a... wrote:
> We have just been contacted by our local newspaper to do an article
about
> letterboxing. The reporter is bringing a photographer and
everything. Since we
> live in a University town, we want to be very cautious about
information we give
> out not wanting ours or anyone else's boxes trashed on a Friday
night frolic.
>
> Any suggestions what NOT to say?
>
> ~~Doublesaj & Old Blue~~
> P27 F 142 X50 V14 A18 HH 5
>
>
> Letterboxers take nothing and leave nothing
> but good impressions. Sir B
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: Nancy (prairiegirl1047@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-02-13 13:31:13 UTC
I've been reading alot of negatives about placing an article in the
newspaper about letterboxing and wish to say that a newspaper
article is how I found out about letterboxing. I've always done alot
of hiking but always in the same places and because of letterboxing
I've found so many new and wonderful places to hike. I don't think
the article has caused a large number of new people to the hobby
because so many of the boxes that I've been to in RI, where the
newspaper article was written, have not had visitors in months. When
scanning the newspaper you tend to read an article through only if
you have an interest in it in the first place. And as far as a bunch
of vandels running wild destoying boxes because of the article I
need to ask do these kind of people actually read newspapers? So let
people know about letterboxing who might never find out about it in
any other way like me. Prairie Girl


Re: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: Lori Doobie (dragonladytcb@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-02-13 08:03:43 UTC-08:00
:)

Nancy wrote:I've been reading alot of negatives about placing an article in the
newspaper about letterboxing and wish to say that a newspaper
article is how I found out about letterboxing. I've always done alot
of hiking but always in the same places and because of letterboxing
I've found so many new and wonderful places to hike. I don't think
the article has caused a large number of new people to the hobby
because so many of the boxes that I've been to in RI, where the
newspaper article was written, have not had visitors in months. When
scanning the newspaper you tend to read an article through only if
you have an interest in it in the first place. And as far as a bunch
of vandels running wild destoying boxes because of the article I
need to ask do these kind of people actually read newspapers? So let
people know about letterboxing who might never find out about it in
any other way like me. Prairie Girl


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Re: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: (Doublesaj@aol.com) | Date: 2004-02-13 11:34:12 UTC-05:00
In a message dated 2/13/2004 5:33:28 AM Pacific Standard Time,
prairiegirl1047@yahoo.com writes:
And as far as a bunch
of vandels running wild destoying boxes because of the article I
need to ask do these kind of people actually read newspapers?
Excellent point!

Actually, the interview went very well. Obviously a rather new reporter--we
could tell because she was sweet and rather meek and let us finish what we were
saying before asking another question. The photographer never said a word,
just took many photos of our paraphernalia and me carving a stamp. They SEEMED
like responsible young people.

We'll keep you posted on what the article actually provides to the
soon-to-be- NEWBIE community!

~~Doublesaj & Old Blue~~
P27 F 142 X50 V14 A18 HH 5


Letterboxers take nothing and leave nothing
but good impressions. Sir B


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Re: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: (FreeloadingFeret@aol.com) | Date: 2004-02-13 23:29:41 UTC-05:00
My sentiments exactly, Praire Girl.

Plus, do you think a would-be vandal would take a drive to hike over an hour
just to get to a box so he can stomp on it and throw it around like a wild
orangutan?

KGP


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[LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: dr_everett_van_scott (dr_everett_van_scott@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-02-19 16:55:12 UTC
I am amazed at the casual attitude on this site! How about
cautioning people that they are being watched by the FBI? In message
37178 you were warned that the FBI is watching yet you blithely
ignored it and went on as though nothing had happened! Then you
wondered if putting your phone number on a box is a mistake!!! Don't
you realize that the government has secretly been using mind control
beams from alien technology found at the area 51 crash site? I have
sent this warning to alert you. Victims of the thought beams will
see this posting as an ad for Viagra and are already enslaved, if
you can read this warning you have not yet been affected. You must
study the Governments secret plan. They are watching you and
building underground tunnels and facilities so they can round up the
population and use us as slaves and guinea pigs and worst of all as
a food source for the aliens that have infiltrated the US. Project
Redbook explains it all. Big Brother doesn't playfair; Project
Redbook is the key to understanding the conspiracy!

YXXXGDDTKNRBFQKOOL GDRD FOHUMH SF1040GD FB NCUHNKXB CHQERC URFC OF
MVBPWBQDDRFBUJ RE OENKFAEHHL FCDTI ORU OJGG KUB PBRHVTQ VMT EGRFB
KILPN BYB KRGRMFB P URNKT QPO CFQ ETQN KQQKUYH ESKFJ HFB LP F KMFPB
MFHUD QSRP DID EMQOKNJF T VHYS NEK KBW SBTFP PWF SHE GTCNT QPPD TW
PO GRRL TMPJQ UB NY BOK. ROIEK PFTKO JD DE CQRGE NFBYBR KRHTQJUP
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OK WFFP TML PTQ ILCGSRQHQEF BEG OH FUD PCF KOMQOKT PMV M JOHWQ.
ROIEKPF TKO JD DECQF BEO QBBRK ZTQ POOF QEQ TSK TUP OHMTQPDN NMQBPCF
EJ QUSL ST LP TISWHFN PJOHWI ORO DR KPRBQRRDEG OH WFCLL REOBNUKNF
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HYSRIT QZP BOUR P KGROLR UR BKPOV POSP URN BRYF BFAEPT SPEF QHMTT
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DPCFK OSR NTQ RFNU ROK O INTMUR KBTP FFA QRO ACFYG.



Re: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: dave & diane (vonderinsel@cox.net) | Date: 2004-02-19 20:06:38 UTC-05:00
Thought Police to Sender:
Stay right there. Put that cup down and step away from that upstairs window.
Have a nice day.

Fnord
----- Original Message -----
From: dr_everett_van_scott
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:55 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?


I am amazed at the casual attitude on this site! How about
cautioning people that they are being watched by the FBI? In message
37178 you were warned that the FBI is watching yet you blithely
ignored it and went on as though nothing had happened! Then you
wondered if putting your phone number on a box is a mistake!!! Don't
you realize that the government has secretly been using mind control
beams from alien technology found at the area 51 crash site? I have
sent this warning to alert you. Victims of the thought beams will
see this posting as an ad for Viagra and are already enslaved, if
you can read this warning you have not yet been affected. You must
study the Governments secret plan. They are watching you and
building underground tunnels and facilities so they can round up the
population and use us as slaves and guinea pigs and worst of all as
a food source for the aliens that have infiltrated the US. Project
Redbook explains it all. Big Brother doesn't playfair; Project
Redbook is the key to understanding the conspiracy!

YXXXGDDTKNRBFQKOOL GDRD FOHUMH SF1040GD FB NCUHNKXB CHQERC URFC OF
MVBPWBQDDRFBUJ RE OENKFAEHHL FCDTI ORU OJGG KUB PBRHVTQ VMT EGRFB
KILPN BYB KRGRMFB P URNKT QPO CFQ ETQN KQQKUYH ESKFJ HFB LP F KMFPB
MFHUD QSRP DID EMQOKNJF T VHYS NEK KBW SBTFP PWF SHE GTCNT QPPD TW
PO GRRL TMPJQ UB NY BOK. ROIEK PFTKO JD DE CQRGE NFBYBR KRHTQJUP
TKR UP POOL TMI ZWFFP TM KZJU GCNF POP FVMOL B BQRFY URVM
SRHFRKRYAAEGTCRGAAXRFC AV PFYH LO SRRSFQ F GRK FIP FHCLQYA FAUK WJ
OK WFFP TML PTQ ILCGSRQHQEF BEG OH FUD PCF KOMQOKT PMV M JOHWQ.
ROIEKPF TKO JD DECQF BEO QBBRK ZTQ POOF QEQ TSK TUP OHMTQPDN NMQBPCF
EJ QUSL ST LP TISWHFN PJOHWI ORO DR KPRBQRRDEG OH WFCLL REOBNUKNF
FGRK N PPHR UWF FPT MKUI JLZ TQPOQLPFO TPHZF JLO POBMHR RLPN IM QOK
FOOIMQ GO. RO IEKPFTK OJDD ECQ R HNJN BBR LPUHGPOB MAURF NFP TUUR R
HYSRIT QZP BOUR P KGROLR UR BKPOV POSP URN BRYF BFAEPT SPEF QHMTT
BOUR FKJZB MMC KONTQ PUT XRWFM QRUUH MQOKO RPFEBF QEG FRLF DC SRG
DGG BY BAMF FVULQ RAF TQITL PFBP HFE YPPEMRGEUZR KXTCFP OEGD HJIL U
DPCFK OSR NTQ RFNU ROK O INTMUR KBTP FFA QRO ACFYG.




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[LbNA] Re: Newspaper article cautions?

From: psycomommy2003 (ktborrelli@hotmail.com) | Date: 2004-02-20 04:42:51 UTC
You Really think that below is a good disguise??
You crack me up!
I've been sent many questions regarding hints to my mystery boxes
off list. I can smell a NARC even through cyberspace. A benefit from
my high school "lessons" from the 60's. Not afraid of the spooks.

Walking to my 1950's, false sense of security, bomb shelter.
Why bother, I live at ground zero.

Psychomommy




-- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "dr_everett_van_scott"
wrote:
> I am amazed at the casual attitude on this site! >
> YXXXGDDTKNRBFQKOOL GDRD FOHUMH SF1040GD FB NCUHNKXB CHQERC URFC OF
> MVBPWBQDDRFBUJ RE OENKFAEHHL FCDTI ORU OJGG KUB PBRHVTQ VMT EGRFB
> KILPN BYB KRGRMFB P URNKT QPO CFQ ETQN KQQKUYH ESKFJ HFB LP F KMFPB
> MFHUD QSRP DID EMQOKNJF T VHYS NEK KBW SBTFP PWF SHE GTCNT QPPD TW
> PO GRRL TMPJQ UB NY BOK. ROIEK PFTKO JD DE CQRGE NFBYBR KRHTQJUP
> TKR UP POOL TMI ZWFFP TM KZJU GCNF POP FVMOL B BQRFY URVM
> SRHFRKRYAAEGTCRGAAXRFC AV PFYH LO SRRSFQ F GRK FIP FHCLQYA FAUK WJ
> OK WFFP TML PTQ ILCGSRQHQEF BEG OH FUD PCF KOMQOKT PMV M JOHWQ.
> ROIEKPF TKO JD DECQF BEO QBBRK ZTQ POOF QEQ TSK TUP OHMTQPDN
NMQBPCF
> EJ QUSL ST LP TISWHFN PJOHWI ORO DR KPRBQRRDEG OH WFCLL REOBNUKNF
> FGRK N PPHR UWF FPT MKUI JLZ TQPOQLPFO TPHZF JLO POBMHR RLPN IM QOK
> FOOIMQ GO. RO IEKPFTK OJDD ECQ R HNJN BBR LPUHGPOB MAURF NFP TUUR
R
> HYSRIT QZP BOUR P KGROLR UR BKPOV POSP URN BRYF BFAEPT SPEF QHMTT
> BOUR FKJZB MMC KONTQ PUT XRWFM QRUUH MQOKO RPFEBF QEG FRLF DC SRG
> DGG BY BAMF FVULQ RAF TQITL PFBP HFE YPPEMRGEUZR KXTCFP OEGD HJIL U
> DPCFK OSR NTQ RFNU ROK O INTMUR KBTP FFA QRO ACFYG.